My man redell wrote a comment in my 'talk box' blog, he said talk box is dope, but t pain is an epidemic, well somthing like that, and I totally agree, t pain is wack. BUT, just to clarify for anyone else that might get it confused, what T pain does is TOTALLY different to what the talk box is, talk box uses a synth and your 'mouthing of words', notice i said mouthing not actually saying, to make the sound made famouse by Troutman. What T Pain does is called 'autotuning' and this is a program that automatically pitch shifts your voice to the nearest pitch you designate it to, say if you set the autotune to C, and you sing and record a vocal part in c but your a tad bit flat, it will automatically correct the pitch but keep the same time. What this basically means is you can be a crap singer but sound like your hitting every note perfectly, well with t pain it is blatant autotuning but most singers run their vocal through more subtle autotuning just to tidy things up, i do it, and i guarentee 99% of recording artists do it to!
The main difference, well the way i see it is, you need to be able to play the keys in order to be a good talk boxer, you need to hit the right notes at the right time, same with the pitch bend and modulation wheels, and youll find alot of talk boxing is done with one hand on the keys and one hand on the mod and pitch bend wheels, this takes ALOT of practise and talent to be able to do this all while mouthing the lyrics.
I hope this clears the confusion about T pain and talk boxing up, if you want to learn more about autotune go here: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune5.shtml
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thanks for clarifying the difference and making the distinction. Man, see, I knew I was gonna learn things from this blog! dope...
But going back to t-pain...since there's so much bend between the notes he sings, does that mean he's singing super out of key?...wack, even more wack than I thought.
He has his moments (T-Pain). I'm not feeling everything he put out but I think there are certain tracks that would not have been the same without him ("I Can Picture" - the unreleased Joe Budden joint for example).
I appreciate talent isn't talent a means of ensuring the dopest possible end product? He used shortcuts but there have been instances during which he got it right.
Snoop used a talkbox for "Sexual Eruption" which was a crazy track.
I have no idea how a talkbox would sound over boom-bap M-Phazes production but I'm definitely looking forward to that "Phaze One" record so I guess I'll find out soon.
On an unrelated note, was it you singing on that "One Life 2 Live" record? I thought that was dope - worked really well with the instrumental.
nah homy that was slo mo and jik haha, they the ones rapping too, i can get down to a bit of t pain, and yeah he usually kills it on his hooks for other people, good life was sick, but it takes alot more talent in my opinion to be able to talk box well
Yeah, same goes for ppl referring to T-Pain as a Vocoder sound, thats something different again.
But i'll give Pain some credit for doing the shit - no one had used autotune so heavily and to such much effect, in, well ever.
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Yo Phazes
I gonna look everyday in your blog. It's very interessting to see how you're living and whats going on with you...for me you're simply the best producer!!!
It would be grateful if you let us see some more about your production. A pic from your studio would be cool tell us something about your using equipment. And much more than just grateful would be a short vid how you making a beat, from the digging to the chopping until the beat making!
hope you let us seeeee!
Much much props & respect for your work...nah sorry, for your ARTWORK!
peys N!K
www.myspace.com/nikmusiq
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